[Razz]

That's a good question I am pretty good with computers but I have no idea what your talking about there. Maybe because its more of a Mac shell thing anyone want to give us steps on it or is it a during jailbreak process?

You can just open the file /etc/hosts with any text editor. Add the line:

127.0.0.1 iphone-services.apple.com

then save the file. This works similarly to the windows host file. Essentially it is telling the machine that any application navigating to iphone-services.apple.com will be redirected to 127.0.0.1 (localhost).

**You must be jailbroken to access the iphone's file system.**

[ultimatexpka]

aww man all my favorite cracked api files =( wait i dont think apis will be affected =P

[Happy Noodle Boy]

Originally Posted by ultimatexpka

aww man all my favorite cracked api files =( wait i dont think apis will be affected =P

No they won't. This is simply a fail safe option in case a malicious app goes through and ends up in the store. I don't think they can tell the difference between a cracked app and not.

And honestly, I don't see why people are going ahead and disabling this. The only reason this is on your phone is to protect you.

[x2thaz64]

wont this only effect people who update there firmware??? i still have 1.1.4 so i should be good right?

[robbpell]

i dont see why people are so pissed about this they havent used it to remove the apps that where taken off so it is obviously a safety feature i hope someone comes up with a hack to disable it that way all you ppl that are so worried will have all there information stolen when a real malicious app comes out and stays on your phone

[johandc]

Originally Posted by robbpell

i dont see why people are so pissed about this they havent used it to remove the apps that where taken off so it is obviously a safety feature i hope someone comes up with a hack to disable it that way all you ppl that are so worried will have all there information stolen when a real malicious app comes out and stays on your phone

Indeed people! Don't go all in panic mode now cos u discovered this!

This feature is here only to protect u, I am sure that Apple will never ever use it unless there is a real need to use it, so please calm down, and be happy that Apple is here to protect us (if necessary)!

[mrtonyyx]

Hackers will save us. Humans created software and hardware so other humans can advance and recreate something from it. Whether it's a fix, modification, or exploit, we will find a way to bypass it. Besides the best hackers could help us but probably don't give a crap about things like this. Probably a waste of their time haha. We'll bypass this no worries.

[Muggz5]

Just add to the bottom line?
edit: My phone is still running fine, but is this where it was supposed to go? was hoping for an answer

[lightmaster]

That is way to "Big Brother" for me. What's next, being able to kill iPhones and iTouchs that are jailbroken?

[Carlos]

Okay call me foolish but im not scared of this kill thing, seems like the hackers are always out thinking apple anyways so everytime apple trys to stop something there is always some smarter

Im on the Hackers Side, I feel once you buy a piece of equipment its your to do what you want!!

MMI lover......no homo!

[MutherFOO]

Noob question...
Is Apple's "call home" function on the iPod Touch as well?
I am guessing that it is.

...and doesn't Apple's remote url interfere with the privacy act in some way?
I mean searching peoples homes without their consent is illegal, so shouldn't searching peoples phones be in the same boat?

[lightmaster]

Originally Posted by MutherFOO

Noob question...
Is Apple's "call home" function on the iPod Touch as well?
I am guessing that it is.

Yes, it is on the iTouch as well. Most functions and stuff that is on the iPhone is also on the iTouch, except, of course, the actual phone part and the EDGE/3G network.

Originally Posted by MutherFOO

...and doesn't Apple's remote url interfere with the privacy act in some way?
I mean searching peoples homes without their consent is illegal, so shouldn't searching peoples phones be in the same boat?

Knowing Apple and all other phone manufacturers, the will probably come up with an excuse along the lines of "We're letting the people who have spent so much money on our products 'borrow' our iPhones and iTouches, not actually 'own' them." I know it will be a BS answer from Apple, but they can pull it off. Plus, I doubt that Steve Jobs would publicly announce the "Call Home" "feature" if they didn't have a valid excuse.


A question of my own, for iPhone users who have to pay a pretty hefty charge for EDGE/3G network usage, if and when Steve Jobs places an app on his blacklist, will it use the EDGE/3G network and cost you money, or will it only happen when your using WIFI?

[MutherFOO]

Originally Posted by lightmaster

Knowing Apple and all other phone manufacturers, the will probably come up with an excuse along the lines of "We're letting the people who have spent so much money on our products 'borrow' our iPhones and iTouches, not actually 'own' them." I know it will be a BS answer from Apple, but they can pull it off. Plus, I doubt that Steve Jobs would publicly announce the "Call Home" "feature" if they didn't have a valid excuse.

Well I'm guessing that Apple stated their "Call Home" feature somewhere in the long as$ "Read the following before excepting to the terms of use" BOOOOOOOOOK!!!, which NO ONE EVER READS, we all just click "Accept", So we will never know, LOL.

But, you do have an excellent point on if they announced it they must have a excuse.

Originally Posted by lightmaster

A question of my own, for iPhone users who have to pay a pretty hefty charge for EDGE/3G network usage, if and when Steve Jobs places an app on his blacklist, will it use the EDGE/3G network and cost you money, or will it only happen when your using WIFI?

Well, I'm not a iPhone user myself, I would like to be but not a single iPhone is soled in a 674.4 mile radius of my town, plus there is not a single AT&T tower even remotely close but there is a T-Mobile tower so there is small shinning gleam of hope for me to get an iPhone. LOL:P
Anyways, I'm sure that Apple could blacklist apps for free over EDGE/3G.

[Happy Noodle Boy]

Originally Posted by lightmaster

Knowing Apple and all other phone manufacturers, the will probably come up with an excuse along the lines of "We're letting the people who have spent so much money on our products 'borrow' our iPhones and iTouches, not actually 'own' them." I know it will be a BS answer from Apple, but they can pull it off. Plus, I doubt that Steve Jobs would publicly announce the "Call Home" "feature" if they didn't have a valid excuse.

That's pretty much what it is now. It's all in the contract (a fun read if you're bored on a weekend). I still think people are over-reacting over this. They already do a general good job on approving/denying apps before they hit the store. In case, something slips by (Aurora Feint not encrypting contacts when sending them), they just remove from the store and it spreads out pretty quick why they did. All this really does is keep Apple safe from a lawsuit if an app does try to kill your phone / sell your contact information without letting you know.

I honestly don't see them using this ever.

[lightmaster]

Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy

That's pretty much what it is now. It's all in the contract (a fun read if you're bored on a weekend). I still think people are over-reacting over this. They already do a general good job on approving/denying apps before they hit the store. In case, something slips by (Aurora Feint not encrypting contacts when sending them), they just remove from the store and it spreads out pretty quick why they did. All this really does is keep Apple safe from a lawsuit if an app does try to kill your phone / sell your contact information without letting you know.

I completely agree, it has the potential to be incredible good for all parties concerned, but, just like Spiderman, "With great power comes great responsibility" and in the ancient Latin proverb, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" or, for those of you who don't speak Latin, "Who will guard the guards themselves." Apple may have the ability to kill malicious apps that somehow make there way into the AppStore and onto your iPhone/iTouch, but does that same power enable them to kill apps that you get through Cydia and Installer? And what happens if a serious bug occurs in your favorite paid app [insert app name here] and Apple kills the app and removes it from the AppStore permanently, what is to stop them from keeping your money that you spent on the app and refusing to give you a refund or store credit? I think most people are probably more worried about Apple being able to walk away with their money than they are worried about malicious apps getting on their iPhone/iTouch.

Also, just like the issue with the government being able to intercept any phone call or radio wave, people are worried about their privacy being violated and sometimes, actually most of the times, they miss the point that Apple and the government are trying to protect us, from terrorist using cell phones to call each other and from malicious apps that may mess up your iPhone/iTouch.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't like that Apple didn't make this "Call Home" function more obvious from the start, but I see no reason in worrying about it or trying to turn it off unless someone finds evidence of Apple abusing this function. If someone does come forward with evidence of Apple killing their app for no real reason, then I'll be first in line to get this function turned off.