[NetMage]

Originally Posted by herzel

what about smart dialing like on window mobile pro? work great!! all you have to do is to dial a # like 8 for exsample and it will find all the # that start with 8 include the one you have dialed and from the phone book.
can that be devolped?

Look for kDialer coming soon

[herzel]

Look for kDialer coming soon"

COOL........Ill follow up on this.
thanks

[tsatryan]

For those who insist on posting sarcastic comments referring to apps that have been developed and offered to anyone at no cost, I suggest that you go take a look at Handango, which offers applications on the Windows Mobile format, among others. They charge. Big time. And, they have the audacity to add "protection" charges to the costs.

If you don't appreciate all the hard work and generosity of those who are creating the apps for the iPhone - whether or not you find a particular app useful to you personally - then just take a look at what those of us that came to the iPhone after using the WM format for years had to deal with.

Personally, I just want to say a HUGE thanks to all the developers for their labors of love and committment to the iPhone community at large.

[ronfin44]

Originally Posted by tsatryan

For those who insist on posting sarcastic comments referring to apps that have been developed and offered to anyone at no cost, I suggest that you go take a look at Handango, which offers applications on the Windows Mobile format, among others. They charge. Big time. And, they have the audacity to add "protection" charges to the costs.

I suggest losing this pointless paragraph in your original post unless you're trying to scare n00bs. Anyone that knows anything about Windows Mobile would be at XDA Dev, for FREE, and not at Handango. I agree with the later part of your post, but this part wont do anything to change the way people will always post on forums like these and isn't gonna make people suddenly "see the light".

EDIT: Also, people don't "run" from WM to an iPhone, unless they're clueless. I use both my iPhone and 8525 which is perfect for the office and still offers more than my iPhone. Since the ROM running in it is of my own creation with the help of a few other devs at xda(thanks JJ), it never needs to be SR or has the dreaded SOD. The apps ported over to it make it an envy of many device users that I show it, and I've been offered twice whats it worth on several occassions. *sigh* Usually people knock things they themselves know little about or "think" they do because they owned a WM device. Oh, and dropping a CAB into your device doesn't make you a "developer" or an expert on Windows Mobile.

When the iPhone community as a whole stops developing pointless apps like bobble heads or fart noises and starts to focus on apps that are actually needed, maybe people will take posts like yours more seriously. Instead of an entire month dedicated to i-crapp-a-day with apps that kids would enjoy (no offence), and maybe take those 30 days and work on a Call Blocker or working MMS, then maybe your statement would have more merrit. I'm sorry, but the reason I still use an iPhone (when out), and a WM device (for work), is because developers for WM focus more on applications adults need over games or iCandy kids like. Seriously, how many "gee look at this app...you shake it" releases are gonna be the at the forefront of developing? -ronfin

[redcard]

I agree with that whole post

[armadillo]

I would have to agree with ronfin to some extent. I think that this is exactly the reason Apple didn't want the platform to be open. The Installer approach doesn't help much either since everybody and their grandma post pointless apps. There should be some quality control. But!!! These are early days and there are some useful apps out there. Apple hasn't really added much value to the iPhone and the first apps they provided aren't that useful either. So I think that we will see improvements both in quality and scope of the apps. Come February, we will see some really cool apps coming out.

[alias_neo]

Well, from my perspective, the iPhone is nothing more, to me, than a toy, so, to me, the useless, funny, entertaining apps are exactly what I need because I take my iPhone out when I want to make people laugh, because that's what it does. When I want a real phone, to do a real job, and host my apps/multimedia/etc properly i will take something else.

HOWEVER

At the same time I have to thank the devs who are actually making some real software that apple hasn't because it seems that it is only for you guys that this phone might ever go from being a joke to maybe replacing my current fav which is my N95.

But until I can send anything I want by bluetooth, use A2DP, edit documents of various kinds, manage my time, manage my contacts (properly) and even have various other things at my fingertips when I require, the iPhone will remain just that to me, an iPod that makes phone calls.

Want everything, expect nothing. That's the way I live, especially when this is concerned.


Oh, and great job on this App, will most probably come in really handy for me since several numbers I dial regularly happen (by pure chance) to be almost identical except for the last 3-4 digits. I look forward to see how much easier this might even be to looking up contacts. It has great potential, well done and respect from this end. Keep it up.

[ronfin44]

I agree with you alias_neo, and that's how I feel about my iPhone too. It's "neat" to take out and show people that it CAN do what they think it CAN'T do, show off new themes, icons, and other graphics I've custom made, and it also fits better in the pocket. But, at work it can't even do the simplest things my 8525 can, like block calls and filter only emergency ones when I'm at work. Does someone have to make a call blocker you shake in order to get it accomplished? I'd like that. See a call coming in you don't wanna answer and shake the phone to hang up? Cool. lol But seriously, the iPhone developing community is still in it's infancy, so we can't expect much compared to the WM community that's been around much longer. I'd just like to see the focus fade away from stupid and pointless apps that clutter the installer, and better updates to apps with promise (ie MMS and Video). Those two were created, MMS in particular, but unlike the WM community were multiple developers join together to fix and release a working app, only one person is expected to do it alone? I think if there was a better cohesive attempt to work together and share the work load, we'd see these apps take off at a faster rate. IMHO. -ronfin

[alias_neo]

I agree with you there to ronfin, I know it seems like we're just complaining but personally I am incapable of helping here, I have no experience with the Mac OS and even less with their mobile platform (so entirely none) I am a developer on other platforms but generally windows based, desktop, linux based desktop or for specific architectures like ARM and MIPS (Think Symbian Mobiles and PSP respectively) but with the lack of knowledge here I really don't think I can contribute anything to these things I'd like to see added myself.

Like you say the community is in its infancy and in other areas I hae seen it take years for the real good stuff get developed, very shortly after to be followed by the real deal by the OEM. But as you say, for the time being I'll use a phone I can rely on where it really counts, and carry the iPhone round in my suit pocket when I'm just going out.

P.S. This accelerometer business is quite funny but seriously, shaking this thing just makes one look like a wanker.

[tsatryan]

Seems as though I touched off quite a bit of posting with my comments. Sorry to have ruffled any feathers. I was not trying to express joy at the seemingly endless numbers of apps that have fairly little if any meaningful value, while all the while there are needed apps that we all would love to have on our iPhones.

But, I was posting to indicate that all of these apps, for the most part, have been available to anyone at absolutely no cost at all. And, when people complain about what they get for free, it makes them look small and unappreciative.

I think that you will find that most Windows Mobile users are not getting their applications from XDA dev, but rather from sources such as Handango and PocketGear. So far, there is no parallel for iPhone users. And, I hope that it remains that way. We will see more clearly come February.

But, my point was, and still is, don't bite the hand that is giving you something for free. If you don't like an app, then fine, don't download and install it. But, don't complain that someone created it.

[ronfin44]

Originally Posted by tsatryan

...If you don't like an app, then fine, don't download and install it. But, don't complain that someone created it.

Exactly! This is the same thing we have to repeat time and time again, even at xda-dev, because everyone always forgets that when you come to any site like this, you're basically a "tester". These apps aren't made bug free, and that's why we have updates, but only AFTER the public testers here have reported issues.

[alias_neo]

I think the point being made is that people are complaining about apps being useless. I mean for gods sake, they're free, if you don't appreciate somebody's work because it's useless to you then just forget it and move on, but complaining that there are too many useless apps is just stupid, you're not being forced to pay for anything, or download anything. Use them or don't.

Somebody somewhere wants the iFartz app, sure it's not got much practical purpose but there are enough people that find it entertaining enough. You don't like it? Ignore it. Simple as.

[SiLeNtKiLLa]

LMAO @ this thread.... Not at the main topic... but the rest... LMAO!

P.S. XDA-DEV rocks.... took me far with my T-Mobile MDA...

[NetMage]

iDialer updated to 1.0.1 - fixed crash when entering too many digits.

[juanjon07]

im too lazy to test, but did this update fix that annoying loading page when you first open the app?? cuz this app is perfect in every way, other than that awful Please wait loading part.